As the title description says, this blog is all about Bronze Age Marvel Variants AND Double Cover Comics Books. There are even a few books that fit both definitions, Double Cover Bronze Age Marvel Variants.
Most of the folks that know me and my collecting, know that I have been collecting Double Cover Comic Books for years, particularly X-Men and a few other of my favorite titles. Double Cover Comic Books are created as a result of a manufacturing error in the production of the books. At the moment, when the cover is added to interior pages, an extra cover was attached and stapled to the book. As you might expect, this production error is very unusual and it is extremely challenging and expensive to put together runs of these books. This post is an opportunity to show a pretty significant run of X-Men double cover comic books. If you can help me with any issues that I am missing, please contact me. Thanks.
X-Men Double Covers
X-Men 1 (No not really, I wish. It is X-Men: Children of the Atom nn#. It does reprint the cover of X-Men 1 which is as close as I will ever get to a double cover of #1.
X-Men 4 This is the earliest double cover that I own in the mainline X-Men series. I believe that there is an actual X-Men 1 double cover that is very high grade that would go well with this collection.
X-Men 5 Magneto/Evil Mutants cvr/story.
X-Men 12 First Juggernaut
X-Men 31 Multiple Errors: double cover and inner cover miswrapped 1" to left
X-Men 34
X-Men 35 Spider-Man crossover
X-Men 38 Origins of the X-Men begin.
X-Men 40
X-Men 41
X-Men 48
X-Men 59 This is a truly unique book. The second cover is attached at the centerfold.
X-Men 71
X-Men 80 Pence Version but still Issue 80.
X-Men 81
X-Men 94 This is one of three copies that I have seen. The first copy I bought on ebay but it was lost by the post office. I will have to tell the whole story in another blog. The third copy is a lower grade copy with a torn inner cover. The first copy also contains a Mark Jewelers insert so it is quite possibly the heaviest X-Men 94 ever manufactured. The second picture is of the one with the torn inner cover. The last picture is the book back from CGC.
X-Men 95
X-Men 99 This is a book from ebay seller Oregonglassman. It points out the dangers of buying raw double covers on ebay. Married cover.
X-Men 100 This is a truly spectacular book. It is a high-grade double cover of the 30 cent price variant.
X-Men 102 Origin Storm
X-Men 105 Firelord
X-Men 106 Old vs. New X-Men
X-Men 108
X-Men 113
X-Men 117
X-Men 118
X-Men 127 This old-label CGC-holdered X-Men book is as perfect as you can get a double cover. Both covers are 9.8 and the Page Quality is White.
X-Men 129 signed by John Byrne
X-Men 139 Kitty Pryde joins the X-Men
X-Men 141 This is a Pence Double Cover
X-Men 142 There is also a CGC 9.6 of this one, but the price has never been right for me. Double covers are so rare, I am very happy with this key Days of Future Past issue.
X-Men 142 This is truly a phenomenal book. The interior cover is severely miswrapped and miscut and extends past the top of the book. It is a wonder that it made it to a shop.
X-Men 143
X-Men 148
X-Men 149
X-Men 150 Yes, this is a double-sized anniversary issue with a double cover.
X-Men 158
X-Men 169 This one turned out really nice.
X-Men 174
X-Men 188
X-Men 193
X-Men 199
X-Men 202 Issue 202 is easily the most common double cover in the entire series. Here are a couple of high grade copies.
X-Men 205
X-Men 207
X-Men 208
X-Men 212
X-Men 227
X-Men 234
X-Men 238
X-Men 249 This book was manufactured with two interiors. It is a double interior book, not a double cover book. Manufacturing Error.
X-Men 250 I have had two of these books - both with "Mark's Jewelers" Inserts
X-Men 251 I have also had two of these books - both also with "Mark's Jewelers" Inserts
X-Men 257
X-Men 258
X-men 262
X-Men 271 This is a severely miswrapped book. Where is the quality control?
X-Men 272 This is a manufacturing error. This book has the cover of Issue 272 but the interior of the second printing of issue of 270. Quality Control?
X-Men 279
X-Men 283 First full Bishop.
X-Men 284 TRIPLE COVER!!!
X-Men 295 Multiple errors: Interior is bound at an angle and 1 inch to left of a normal spine. The staples are attached on the front and not on the spine. The book is folded 1 inch away from normal.
X-Men 299 This is a strange double cover book with the inner cover miswrapped and miscut and severely rotated 15 degrees.
X-Men 440 The outtter cover is attached 1" higher with the bottom margin visible.
X-Men 447 The cover and first four wraps are bound too high, leaving margins and color bars visible; center four wraps not properly trimmed at top, comic not properly trimmed overall, leaving book approximately 1/4" inch taller than normal.
Giant-Size X-Men 2 This is a fantastic book and is manufactured with double interior and signed by Neal Adams.
X-Men Annual 9
X-Men Annual 14
X-Men 10
X-Men 11 Pressman This is a stunning example of the rare Pressman variant.
X-Men (2nd Series) 160
X-Men Alpha 1 Wraparound chromium cover: the outer cover is not attached.
New X-Men 150
X-Men Unlimited 41
X-Men Unlimited 46
Ultimate X-Man 34 Ultimate is correct as this is the only CGC 9.9 double cover in the collection.
Ultimate X-Men 61
X-Factor 10
X-Factor 78
Sunday, July 11, 2010
Wednesday, July 7, 2010
Avengers 148
Enough of Iron Fist mania and back to our regularly scheduled programming.
Avengers 148 opens with the Squadron Supreme meeting up in their rocket central in space over the other-earth planning their attack on the Avengers who are on the other-earth and possess President Rockefeller's Serpent Crown. The Squadron Supreme uses their eye in the sky to find the Avengers and the battle is on.
Here is the order of battle.
The Beast is telling Hellcat that he calls her Patsy because he knows that she is Patsy Walker. Cap'n Hawk attacks and goes after Hellcat. It doesn't say much about Cap'n Hawk's manhood or smarts that he would attack Patsy rather than the Beast in a surprise attack, but he WHAM!s her and he misses.
The Beast WOP!s Cap'n Hawk but then gets ZAK!ed by Tom Thumb.
Then Amphibian tries to sneak up on Hellfire but he gives her the opportunity to surrender becauses it is not his habit to harm the weaker sex. Hellfire TOK!s him and Amphibian KRASH!s into a storefront.
Page 7 contains comic book buy and sell advertising from Comic Sales Company, Black Gold Comics, International Comics Exchange, and Max Seeley. Also, on this page you can mail a coupon and 10 cents to Charles Atlas and get his book on how to build an Atlas Body in 7 Days.
Tom Thumb sneaks his micromodule behind Hellfire and SPLOOD!s (covers) her with paste. Yes, I know that doesn't read real well - Tom Thumb using his micromodule to cover Hellfire with paste. Where is Fred Werthem when you need him?
The Beast then KBAM!s Tom Thumb's micromodule and BONK!s Tom Thumb on the head.
Page 12 is advertising for Comic Book Savers which is a notebook to hold 12 Titanic Titles. It came with a full page of comic book character stickers. If anyone has one of these, particularly with stickers and a box, let me know. This would be a really cool thing to store a few variants in.
Then the Beast K-RASHS! Cap'n Hawk.
A short break in the battle teases us with Thor flying over the Avengers homeworld being questioned by Moondragon as to why Thor remains an Avenger. Thor tells her "Silence Woman!" and we are told that we will learn more next month.
The Whizzer WHOOM!s Captain America and Iron Man by streaking past them.
Then Dr. Spectrum KLANG!s Iron Man and the Whizzer POW!s Captain America.
Then the Whizzer runs circles around Captain America and creates some kind of super vortex that causes Cap to CHUNK! to the ground.
Captain America gets up and throws his shield at the Whizzer but the Whizzer vibrates at superspeed and the shield passes harmless through him. The Whizzer BAM!s Cap on the chest but then is surprised when Cap's shield boomerangs and FWAM!s him on the back of the head.
Page 18 is the Mighty Marvel Checklist and all the pictured issues are the regular issues rather than variant ones.
Page 19 is the Avengers Assemble letters page with four fan letters. One is from Peter Sanderson, a student at Columbia University. Another is from Jo Duffy, a student at Wellesley.
Page 20 is an advertising page and includes buy and sell comic advertising from Robert Bell, Pacific Comics, Richard Alf, Comic Kingdom, Grand Book, Inc.
When we rejoin the story, Dr. Spectrum notices that Cap has taken the Whiz (sorry, couldn't resist) and inadvertantly loosens his grip on Iron Man which allows Iorn Man to wriggle free and activate the "ultra-violet beam which nullifies Dr. Spectrum's gem by going beyond the range of its spectrum." No, I am not making this stuff up and this happened before inIron Man 64.
After dispatching the Squadron Supreme, the Avengers meet up and decide they must escape the Other-World but not before they do what they can to save it.
Meanwhile, back on earth Mrs. Pym and Yellowjacket are getting released from the hospital. Dr. Horrigan pronounces them "fit as fiddles," but Yellowjacket is unsure if he will join the Wasp who is going back to the Avengers.
Page 23 is another advertising page with comic advertising from David Belmont, Jack Hunt, Passaic Book Center and some unnamed person in Santee CA.
The Squadron Supreme meets up with President Rockefeller at the White House to tell them that they have failed. President Rockefeller confesses that he and the other corporate and conglomerate executives have taken over control of the county which disturbs the Squadron Supreme until they realize that President Rockefeller is really the Beast in disguise. The Beast escapes after telling them the truth and the Golden Archer shoots an arrow at the Beast which THUNK!s into the ground.
The Beast escapes to another room in the White House where the rest of the Avengers have President Rockefeller tied upin a bondage panel in just his boxers and sock garters. I'll leave that one to your imagination or you can read it yourself.
Page 28 is the Mavel BullPen Bulletins page which include Stan Lee's Soapbox where Stan the Man is pitching the Marvel-Con at NYs Hotel Commodore on April 23, 24, and 25th. I didn't make that one. Also on this page, the bullpen explains what "those little boxes in the left-hand corner of all our mags on sale this month are...The box is called "The Universal Product Code" (U.P.C for short), and this has been put on everything from comics to containers, from magazines to matchboxes, in order to sell the product in all stores. Fact is, you've probably already seen this on all other comics, and now Marvel has it too." Yes, this is the first month that the U.P.C. was printed on the cover, and apparently for once, Marvel conceded that it was second to DC.
The Squadron Supreme rush the Avengers but the Scarlet Witch steps forward and casts a spell which creates some gigantic plant that entangles all of the Squadron. The Avengers have deduced that the President must have a portal to Earth inside the White House and they find the portal and escape through it.
The Squadron Supreme escape the plant and just as they are about to chase the Avengers through the portal they see President Rockefeller in bondage and begin to wonder if what the Beast told them was true. They decide to stay on their planet and we are ready for the Grand Finale in Issue 149.
The only NM- issues that have come up in the last couple of years have been two sales of CGC 9.2s for $75 in 2008 and $125 in 2009. The CGC census shows one 9.8, two 9.6s, and three 9.4s.
Avengers 148 opens with the Squadron Supreme meeting up in their rocket central in space over the other-earth planning their attack on the Avengers who are on the other-earth and possess President Rockefeller's Serpent Crown. The Squadron Supreme uses their eye in the sky to find the Avengers and the battle is on.
Here is the order of battle.
The Beast is telling Hellcat that he calls her Patsy because he knows that she is Patsy Walker. Cap'n Hawk attacks and goes after Hellcat. It doesn't say much about Cap'n Hawk's manhood or smarts that he would attack Patsy rather than the Beast in a surprise attack, but he WHAM!s her and he misses.
The Beast WOP!s Cap'n Hawk but then gets ZAK!ed by Tom Thumb.
Then Amphibian tries to sneak up on Hellfire but he gives her the opportunity to surrender becauses it is not his habit to harm the weaker sex. Hellfire TOK!s him and Amphibian KRASH!s into a storefront.
Page 7 contains comic book buy and sell advertising from Comic Sales Company, Black Gold Comics, International Comics Exchange, and Max Seeley. Also, on this page you can mail a coupon and 10 cents to Charles Atlas and get his book on how to build an Atlas Body in 7 Days.
Tom Thumb sneaks his micromodule behind Hellfire and SPLOOD!s (covers) her with paste. Yes, I know that doesn't read real well - Tom Thumb using his micromodule to cover Hellfire with paste. Where is Fred Werthem when you need him?
The Beast then KBAM!s Tom Thumb's micromodule and BONK!s Tom Thumb on the head.
Page 12 is advertising for Comic Book Savers which is a notebook to hold 12 Titanic Titles. It came with a full page of comic book character stickers. If anyone has one of these, particularly with stickers and a box, let me know. This would be a really cool thing to store a few variants in.
Then the Beast K-RASHS! Cap'n Hawk.
A short break in the battle teases us with Thor flying over the Avengers homeworld being questioned by Moondragon as to why Thor remains an Avenger. Thor tells her "Silence Woman!" and we are told that we will learn more next month.
The Whizzer WHOOM!s Captain America and Iron Man by streaking past them.
Then Dr. Spectrum KLANG!s Iron Man and the Whizzer POW!s Captain America.
Then the Whizzer runs circles around Captain America and creates some kind of super vortex that causes Cap to CHUNK! to the ground.
Captain America gets up and throws his shield at the Whizzer but the Whizzer vibrates at superspeed and the shield passes harmless through him. The Whizzer BAM!s Cap on the chest but then is surprised when Cap's shield boomerangs and FWAM!s him on the back of the head.
Page 18 is the Mighty Marvel Checklist and all the pictured issues are the regular issues rather than variant ones.
Page 19 is the Avengers Assemble letters page with four fan letters. One is from Peter Sanderson, a student at Columbia University. Another is from Jo Duffy, a student at Wellesley.
Page 20 is an advertising page and includes buy and sell comic advertising from Robert Bell, Pacific Comics, Richard Alf, Comic Kingdom, Grand Book, Inc.
When we rejoin the story, Dr. Spectrum notices that Cap has taken the Whiz (sorry, couldn't resist) and inadvertantly loosens his grip on Iron Man which allows Iorn Man to wriggle free and activate the "ultra-violet beam which nullifies Dr. Spectrum's gem by going beyond the range of its spectrum." No, I am not making this stuff up and this happened before inIron Man 64.
After dispatching the Squadron Supreme, the Avengers meet up and decide they must escape the Other-World but not before they do what they can to save it.
Meanwhile, back on earth Mrs. Pym and Yellowjacket are getting released from the hospital. Dr. Horrigan pronounces them "fit as fiddles," but Yellowjacket is unsure if he will join the Wasp who is going back to the Avengers.
Page 23 is another advertising page with comic advertising from David Belmont, Jack Hunt, Passaic Book Center and some unnamed person in Santee CA.
The Squadron Supreme meets up with President Rockefeller at the White House to tell them that they have failed. President Rockefeller confesses that he and the other corporate and conglomerate executives have taken over control of the county which disturbs the Squadron Supreme until they realize that President Rockefeller is really the Beast in disguise. The Beast escapes after telling them the truth and the Golden Archer shoots an arrow at the Beast which THUNK!s into the ground.
The Beast escapes to another room in the White House where the rest of the Avengers have President Rockefeller tied upin a bondage panel in just his boxers and sock garters. I'll leave that one to your imagination or you can read it yourself.
Page 28 is the Mavel BullPen Bulletins page which include Stan Lee's Soapbox where Stan the Man is pitching the Marvel-Con at NYs Hotel Commodore on April 23, 24, and 25th. I didn't make that one. Also on this page, the bullpen explains what "those little boxes in the left-hand corner of all our mags on sale this month are...The box is called "The Universal Product Code" (U.P.C for short), and this has been put on everything from comics to containers, from magazines to matchboxes, in order to sell the product in all stores. Fact is, you've probably already seen this on all other comics, and now Marvel has it too." Yes, this is the first month that the U.P.C. was printed on the cover, and apparently for once, Marvel conceded that it was second to DC.
The Squadron Supreme rush the Avengers but the Scarlet Witch steps forward and casts a spell which creates some gigantic plant that entangles all of the Squadron. The Avengers have deduced that the President must have a portal to Earth inside the White House and they find the portal and escape through it.
The Squadron Supreme escape the plant and just as they are about to chase the Avengers through the portal they see President Rockefeller in bondage and begin to wonder if what the Beast told them was true. They decide to stay on their planet and we are ready for the Grand Finale in Issue 149.
The only NM- issues that have come up in the last couple of years have been two sales of CGC 9.2s for $75 in 2008 and $125 in 2009. The CGC census shows one 9.8, two 9.6s, and three 9.4s.
Tuesday, July 6, 2010
Rarest Bronze-Age Marvel Variants
I have had several questions from folks wanting to know which are the rarest bronze age marvel variants. The rarity index that the Variant Mafia posted up on stlcomics.com is still a good guide. Generally, horror, war, and westerns and the superhero reprints are all "scarce as hen's teeth."
Rarity in comic books is usually measured using a scale developed by Ernst Gerber and published in his Photo-Journal Guide To Comics volumes.
Gerber's scale is as follows:
(1) Very Common (new comics)
(2) Common (80's books)
(3) More Than Average (70's, some 60's)
(4) Average Scarcity (1,000-2,000 existing copies)
(5) Less Than Average (200-1,000 existing copies)
(6) Uncommon (50-200 existing copies)
(7) Scarce (21-50 known copies)
(8) Rare (11-20 known copies)
(9) Very Rare (6-10 known copies)
(10) Unique (less than 5 known copies)
(11) Nonexistent (but known to have been printed)
So using Gerber's Scale, here are the scarcest books.
35 cents
Gerber 10
Flintstones 1 (2 known copies)
Scooby 1
Kid Colt 218
Kid Colt 219
Kid Colt 220
Rawhide Kid 140
Rawhide Kid 141
Sgt. Fury and His Howling Commandos 141
Sgt. Fury and His Howling Commandos 142
Gerber 9
There are too many titles to list here but most of the superhero reprint books and horror books fit in this category. In fact, there are several reprint books like Marvel Triple Action 36 which could be included in the Gerber 10 category.
The Iron Fist 14 price variant has been known almost since the day it hit the shelves and was soon after a wall-book and still it is a Gerber 6 or Gerber 7 with only 24 certified copies.
In fact, the Star Wars 1 (because of its huge print run and popularity) is the only for certain Gerber 6 35 cent price variant. Of course, the collector demand for the book is also at the top of the chart.
30 Cents
Gerber 9
Kid Colt 208 (eight known copies)
Weird Wonder Tales 15 (ten known copies)
Gerber 8
Kid Colt 205
Kid Colt 206
Kid Colt 207
Kid Colt 209
Mighty Marvel Western 45
Rawhide Kid 133
Rawhide Kid 134
Ringo Kid 27
Ringo Kid 28
Two-Gun Kid 129
Two-Gun Kid 130
Two-Gun Kid 131
Gerber 7/8 (less than 30 copies)
Chamber of Chills 22
Chamber of Chills 23
Jungle Action 22
Jungle Action 23
Sgt. Fury and His Howling Commandos 133
Sgt. Fury and His Howling Commandos 134
Tomb of Darkness 20
Tomb of Darkness 21
Weird Wonder Tales 16
Weird Wonder Tales 17
A couple of additional notes are in order.
1. Gerber never assigned an 11 to a book. I guess it is a bit like the old riddle about if a tree falling in a forest makes a sound if no one is there to hear it. I kind of think it would be cool for Marvel to print a comic and immediately destroy every copy so that we could say that the comic was a Gerber 11. Of course, there have been some comics that should have been immediately destroyed but that is another story and is also why we still have Squirrel Girl around. Yes, her superpower is that she can talk to squirrels. I don't feel the need to pain you with any puns.
2. While we have a good idea of the number of known copies, it is very difficult to try and predict the number of bronze age marvel variants hiding unknown in closets, basements, attics, and garages. I suppose it is possible that one day a warehouse with long boxes filled with bronze age marvel variants might be found. However, the exact print runs of the price variants are unknown but very small. Sales of the western, war, and horror books, particularly reprints, was very poor and most collectors did not collect them so I think most were returned or read and thrown out. For several years the price variants have had enough collector interest to bring strong bids and still the money has not been able to chase out a bunch of copies. If the past 10 years are any indication, I speculate that at most two or at three times the current number of known books will be found over the next 10 to 20 years which means that the western, war, and Hanna-Barbara books will still be Gerber 9 and 10s.
Finally, I am very interested in the census of these books. If you have any additional information or corrections, please drop me a line.
Thanks.
Rarity in comic books is usually measured using a scale developed by Ernst Gerber and published in his Photo-Journal Guide To Comics volumes.
Gerber's scale is as follows:
(1) Very Common (new comics)
(2) Common (80's books)
(3) More Than Average (70's, some 60's)
(4) Average Scarcity (1,000-2,000 existing copies)
(5) Less Than Average (200-1,000 existing copies)
(6) Uncommon (50-200 existing copies)
(7) Scarce (21-50 known copies)
(8) Rare (11-20 known copies)
(9) Very Rare (6-10 known copies)
(10) Unique (less than 5 known copies)
(11) Nonexistent (but known to have been printed)
So using Gerber's Scale, here are the scarcest books.
35 cents
Gerber 10
Flintstones 1 (2 known copies)
Scooby 1
Kid Colt 218
Kid Colt 219
Kid Colt 220
Rawhide Kid 140
Rawhide Kid 141
Sgt. Fury and His Howling Commandos 141
Sgt. Fury and His Howling Commandos 142
Gerber 9
There are too many titles to list here but most of the superhero reprint books and horror books fit in this category. In fact, there are several reprint books like Marvel Triple Action 36 which could be included in the Gerber 10 category.
The Iron Fist 14 price variant has been known almost since the day it hit the shelves and was soon after a wall-book and still it is a Gerber 6 or Gerber 7 with only 24 certified copies.
In fact, the Star Wars 1 (because of its huge print run and popularity) is the only for certain Gerber 6 35 cent price variant. Of course, the collector demand for the book is also at the top of the chart.
30 Cents
Gerber 9
Kid Colt 208 (eight known copies)
Weird Wonder Tales 15 (ten known copies)
Gerber 8
Kid Colt 205
Kid Colt 206
Kid Colt 207
Kid Colt 209
Mighty Marvel Western 45
Rawhide Kid 133
Rawhide Kid 134
Ringo Kid 27
Ringo Kid 28
Two-Gun Kid 129
Two-Gun Kid 130
Two-Gun Kid 131
Gerber 7/8 (less than 30 copies)
Chamber of Chills 22
Chamber of Chills 23
Jungle Action 22
Jungle Action 23
Sgt. Fury and His Howling Commandos 133
Sgt. Fury and His Howling Commandos 134
Tomb of Darkness 20
Tomb of Darkness 21
Weird Wonder Tales 16
Weird Wonder Tales 17
A couple of additional notes are in order.
1. Gerber never assigned an 11 to a book. I guess it is a bit like the old riddle about if a tree falling in a forest makes a sound if no one is there to hear it. I kind of think it would be cool for Marvel to print a comic and immediately destroy every copy so that we could say that the comic was a Gerber 11. Of course, there have been some comics that should have been immediately destroyed but that is another story and is also why we still have Squirrel Girl around. Yes, her superpower is that she can talk to squirrels. I don't feel the need to pain you with any puns.
2. While we have a good idea of the number of known copies, it is very difficult to try and predict the number of bronze age marvel variants hiding unknown in closets, basements, attics, and garages. I suppose it is possible that one day a warehouse with long boxes filled with bronze age marvel variants might be found. However, the exact print runs of the price variants are unknown but very small. Sales of the western, war, and horror books, particularly reprints, was very poor and most collectors did not collect them so I think most were returned or read and thrown out. For several years the price variants have had enough collector interest to bring strong bids and still the money has not been able to chase out a bunch of copies. If the past 10 years are any indication, I speculate that at most two or at three times the current number of known books will be found over the next 10 to 20 years which means that the western, war, and Hanna-Barbara books will still be Gerber 9 and 10s.
Finally, I am very interested in the census of these books. If you have any additional information or corrections, please drop me a line.
Thanks.
Monday, July 5, 2010
Iron Fist 14 Redux Part 2
CGC forumite Keldog sent me an email reminding me of a recent CGC forum thread about a BOGUS Iron Fist 14 sale. In October of last year, a scammer from Aussie listed on ebay a CGC 9.4 Iron Fist 14. He did not mention in the listing that the book was the variant issue, but used a scan of the lone CGC 9.4 book in the listing.
Interestingly, the auction ended at $6100 despite the fact that the listing looked so fishy. Since the book was not described as a variant, many variant collectors missed the listing and others simply ignored the listing because it had scam written all over it.
Anyway, it appears that ebay scuttled the auction which hopefully means that the buyer didn't get burned. If the true owner of the 9.4 Iron Fist 14 variant does want to sell (trust me, he knows the difference between the variant and the non-variant issue), I will gladly pay $6100 for it.
If you would like to read the CGC forum thread discussing this book, you will find it here CGC discussion of bogus Iron Fist sale.
Interestingly, the auction ended at $6100 despite the fact that the listing looked so fishy. Since the book was not described as a variant, many variant collectors missed the listing and others simply ignored the listing because it had scam written all over it.
Anyway, it appears that ebay scuttled the auction which hopefully means that the buyer didn't get burned. If the true owner of the 9.4 Iron Fist 14 variant does want to sell (trust me, he knows the difference between the variant and the non-variant issue), I will gladly pay $6100 for it.
If you would like to read the CGC forum thread discussing this book, you will find it here CGC discussion of bogus Iron Fist sale.
Iron Fist 14 Redux
Bill, a variant sent me an email about an Iron Fist 14 35 cent variant that sold last year at Pedigree Comics.
He wrote, "An IF #14 CGC 2.5 Variant sold for $575.00 on pedigreecomics last year as seen on GPA. That sale represents the most multipules of guide in grade that an IF 14 Variant has ever sold for."
I checked Overstreet's 37th edition which lists the regular edition at $13 in Good (2.0) and the price variant at $50 in Good. (I don't have the current guide since they are not particularly helpful when it comes to price variants.) So $575 is over 11 times the guide price.
I appreciate Bill sending me the note and would add two additional points.
1. The Overstreet guide is simply not useful as a price guide for bronze age price variants. The reality is that there is NO GPA (and GPA goes back to 2002) sale of an Iron Fist 14 at less than the Overstreet Price Guide. The books have always sold at multiples of guide. Always.
2. One really neat thing about the marvel bronze age price variants is that they are rare enough that most variant collectors are happy to collect the books as long as they are complete. I don't think there are many Iron Fist collectors that are going to be interested in a regular edition 14 in Good condition and if you offered one for sale at the Overstreet Price Guide price of $13, it will not sell. If you list a 35 cent price variant at the Overstreet Price Guide of $50, it will sell immediately.
He wrote, "An IF #14 CGC 2.5 Variant sold for $575.00 on pedigreecomics last year as seen on GPA. That sale represents the most multipules of guide in grade that an IF 14 Variant has ever sold for."
I checked Overstreet's 37th edition which lists the regular edition at $13 in Good (2.0) and the price variant at $50 in Good. (I don't have the current guide since they are not particularly helpful when it comes to price variants.) So $575 is over 11 times the guide price.
I appreciate Bill sending me the note and would add two additional points.
1. The Overstreet guide is simply not useful as a price guide for bronze age price variants. The reality is that there is NO GPA (and GPA goes back to 2002) sale of an Iron Fist 14 at less than the Overstreet Price Guide. The books have always sold at multiples of guide. Always.
2. One really neat thing about the marvel bronze age price variants is that they are rare enough that most variant collectors are happy to collect the books as long as they are complete. I don't think there are many Iron Fist collectors that are going to be interested in a regular edition 14 in Good condition and if you offered one for sale at the Overstreet Price Guide price of $13, it will not sell. If you list a 35 cent price variant at the Overstreet Price Guide of $50, it will sell immediately.
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